If you deposited money into an online casino and lost and then went to your bank and disputed the charges (I could careless about the ethics arguement) what kind of grounds could the casino use to justify stopping the charge back? I've heard both arguments and I can't see how a casino would win unless the echeck or credit charge had there name on it. I mean you can sign whatever saying you.

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• Hi all.
  where do i start?
  yes I’m a compulsive gambler , it lets me forget my life I don’t want to live anymore. I get a high when i win and don’t feel nothing when i spin my £125 spins a time and lose it all then the depression and despair sets in . I just want to sleep and never wake up.
  I have borrowed thousands from family members , scammed people online to fund my addiction, I have even sucked cock. Just the once and i am completley disgusted with myself

  I have a supportive partner and 3 children. I feel i have destroyed my family.

  I have mental heath issues too, borderline personality disorder, manic depression, eating disorders ,bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. I take medication for it but when i get stressed it gets bad.

  Recently i have self excluded myself from every online outlet.

  Too look at me you wouldn’t think there is anything wrong but underneath there is, I hide it and try and cope with normal everyday things.

  I am lucky I have a partner who knows all this and wants to help. he is trying to get a psychiatrist to have one on one sessions with to do with my past when was was younger that effected me badly.

  Saying all this ..I have read a lot of posts and i feel the same, we are all going through the same thing. It’s hell and i wish there wasn’t any gambling allowed online. I want to stop all these crooks!

  In the meantime i and giving it up and it feels dull , i need stimulation of some kind so i must get back into my running and exercise and i am a perfectionist so i’m pretty tough on my self.

  I would like to ask a question .. as i have serious mental health do i stand a chance of getting my recent deposits back?

  Before i have self excluded and explained my mental health with cassava and they didn’t close it so i kept doing it.

  I wish i never got into this in the first place.

  Want to say to everyone reading this , stay strong, don’t give up . The best thing about life is that a new day comes and we can start again.
  charleen

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  Hi Charleen. That was a tough read. Kudos on the honesty. Where was it exactly that you asked to be banned, but they failed to ban you?
  From my experience both online and brick and mortar casinos take these requests very, very seriously and act on them immediately.

  Can you give more details and also how did you lose money there? Is there paper trace (did you use your bank cards at those places etc. Also, can you prove that you requested to be excluded?)

  Hi Charleen. I’m not going to comment on your chances of getting a refund, other than to say that isn’t the most important thing here.

  More importantly what actions are you talking to make sure you don’t deposit any more on any gambling site?

  It sounds like your partenr and family know about your gambling problems? How about he takes over the finances for a while so you can’t gamble? Making yourself accountable will both help you stop gamblign and show your family how much you mean it this time. Also of course put their mind at rest you aren’t still gambling.

  What other interests do you have? What things are you going to fill your time with away from gambling? I know that’s not easy.

  Keep posting here, let us know the positive steps you are taking.

  Hi I think you are doing well and taking a good step coming here. I would not focus on trying to get your money back either through gambling or by hoping the casinos refund your deposits. Because in all likely hood they wont no matter what. Accept the fact the money has gone it does not belong to you. And then take the next step to focus how you can start to stop yourself gambling for good.

  Wish you well with this.

It seems that gamblers suing the casinos is becoming a trend. And responsinsiblr gambling rules are on their side. See for example these two cases:
If the chips fall against them, serious gamblers call Bob Nersesian. The 58-year-old attorney is the go-to guy for card sharks who claim they’ve been roughed up or feel they’ve been cheated by the house. His clients are often well-versed in card counting, a practice he says is just skillful betting.
“It is not illegal and it is not cheating,” says . (In 1982, a New Jersey state judge ruled as such.) “Card counting is nothing more than playing the game offered by the casino.” A stocky, aggressive pit bull of a man, he has, over the past 21 years, spearheaded 70 such cases and won millions of dollars for gamblers. He details his legal exploits in his forthcoming book “The Law for Gamblers”.

Bob Nersesian - 'gambling lawer'

“Casinos everywhere like taking shots at ripping off players,” says Nersesian, who is based in Vegas but has taken on gambling dens in New Jersey and Connecticut. “They will detain players or not cash their chips for any reason imaginable.” Nersesian says the laws vary from state to state as to whether or not a casino can kick a player out without cause, but that it’s always illegal not to redeem chips that have been legally won or to physically attack a patron unless it’s in the name of defense.
“Clearly, they don’t want certain people near their games,” he says.
“But if they offer a game to the community — and it’s their odds, equipment and rules — [how can] they exclude smart people from participating?
A few years ago, Nersesian helped a professional Atlantic City gambler who games under the name Keith Burks take on a casino. He was playing blackjack and smartly monitoring the deck when a floor supervisor came over and grabbed Burks’ cards. “He killed the hand!” Burks recalls. “Things got heated. Security guards ended up tackling me and handcuffing me. I woke up Bob with a phone call.” While the terms of Burks’ settlement are confidential, Nersesian says he’s won verdicts as high as $600,000 for gambler clients.
Thom Kho, a 24-year-old barber from Piscataway, NJ, hopes the attorney will be able to get him a six-figure sum. Last summer, Kho, a skilled card counter, was playing blackjack at Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas — the same gambling den that Ben Affleck was kicked out of in 2014 for card counting. Kho won nearly $6,000 his first two days in Vegas, and was actually losing on his third day, when a Hard Rock employee abruptly stopped him.
“Cash in your chips,” the casino suit said. “You’re done.”
The man demanded that the baby-faced Kho show his ID, and when Kho refused, because he’d already given it to the dealer earlier, he was handcuffed and bullied into a back room. A guard rifled through his cargo-short pockets and removed his wallet, cellphone, $3,625 in Hard Rock chips and an envelope containing nearly $30,000.
An hour or so later, Kho was released and given his possessions back, but the casino wouldn’t let him cash out the chips. “Next morning, I called Bob,” Kho says. When he told Nersesian what had happened, the lawyer laughed and said, “If they did exactly what you say, we can make a lot of money.”

Can I Get My Money Back From Online Casinos

Court papers have been filed and the case is ongoing. Though Nersesian makes a handsome living from taking on casinos, he insists that there is more at stake than money. “It’s about bringing thugs to justice,” he says.

Can I Get Money Back From Online Casino

‘Casinos everywhere like taking shots at ripping off players.’ - Bob Nersesian